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:lol: Pops you have to wash your mask. That`s common sense and instructions are easy to find. The CDC and WHO position on masks was largely based on availability and preventing a run on the sort medical products professionals need. There hadn`t been any studies on homemade masks, but now there has been at least three. I just posted one. There`s an earlier one as well as one that just came out a few days ago. I`m about to go to bed, plus I`m tired of doing all the work when it comes to supporting my statements by providing actual evidence.... :wink:

They should be easy enough to find in Google. Keep in mind it`s most common in science to learn more as more research is performed. That`s the nature of the business.

As to quacks, well that`s precisely what they are, especially the strip mall preacher/doc with his alien DNA and whacky religious proclamations. These docs claimed there was a cure for Covid when there isn`t. They advised taking a drug that multiple studies has shown is ineffective when treating Covid while it carries cardiac risks.

https://www.statnews.com/2020/06/05/hyd ... e-of-drug/

More propaganda from the far left who ignores the actually science.
They discouraged wearing masks and social distancing when both have been demonstrated as effective. Read the articles I just posted and the related studies. Heck, just look at Western Europe and several Asian countries that have been on the ball with all this stuff and have the virus under control. They took the Nike cue, just did it and they have been rewarded. They have mask vending machines in Germany. In Singapore one can swipe their govt ID and get two masks out of a machine.

As to censorship, well Twitter and Facebook are private platforms so the first amendment doesn`t apply. If someone comes in my living talking ridiculous horseshit about a very serious matter and won`t listen to reason, I`m going to ask them to leave. These quacks can still give speeches in front of the Lincoln Memorial if they get a permit, can start their own blog, plus the kooks at Breitbart will have them. Don`t worry though, plenty of Russian shills will take up the slack with spreading disinformation.

I agree that people should investigate a wide range of news sources. Fox and Brietbart fans can begin to broaden their horizons by reading the articles I just posted which contain two peer reviewed studies, an interview with Bill Gates, and background info on the quacks so alluded to. I already answered about all the common and false arguments for equating Covid with the Flu, claims that numbers are getting faked, etc. in my earlier post to you from about a week ago. I`m not doing it all over again. Anyone interested should have no trouble looking it up. It`s a long post with a lot of source citations (links). Cheers

Author:	Express321 [ Fri Jul 31, 2020 1:34 am ]
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Flabuck wrote: doctors are like lawyers, ask 10 different doctors and you'll get 15 different answers. just pick the one that makes you feel good and confirms your narrative Nope sorry. Experienced, well credentialed contagious disease specialists, and an overwhelming consensus of the same which we have carries far more credibility than some GP from Nebraska, Dr. Phil, Dr. Oz and a fundy preacher/doctor out of a Tx strip mall that writes about DNA from aliens. The same can be said when peer reviewed university laboratory studies demonstrating the efficiency of various types of masks are weighed against a strip mall quack`s unsubstantiated opinion. Declaring all information on these matters equally valid is foolishness and a copout from someone who lacks even midrange intelligence, honesty, or both. PS Read the articles. I doubt any of the detractors have even opened the links. What are you afraid of? Discuss the articles. I have no more time for third rate barstool banter.

Author:	Pops [ Fri Jul 31, 2020 2:05 am ]
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The quack doctors hyping hydroxicloroquine advised the listeners to think and decide for themselves. They advised people to consult with their personal physicians. They gave reasons why it was safe to open schools and why the schools will not be reopening because of outrageous demands by teacher labor unions. To me this was valid information to know. For this their video was removed from social media by Facebook, Google, U-tube and twitter. I view their actions as trying to influence thinking before the upcoming election. I now know what censorship looks like. At the same time they hype the police brutalizing the poor peaceful protesters and fail to show the bottles, bricks, fireworks hurled at the police. Hydroxicloroquine was a common drug here in Costa Rica prior to the pandemic. The government bought the whole supply and has used it extensively on treating patients here. The video is back up. Look at it yourself and you decide. Educate yourself. Don't buy into anything anyone tells you or you may be finding yourself being fitted for a butt plug. I know that over the period of the epidemic I have been told masks are not of any value, masks may be of value if you have symptoms, masks are not recommended to people who are healthy and may actually be harmful, now you got to wear a mask (all of this was different positions from the CDC) If masks are so important, why are there no specs. I can make a mask out of cheese cloth and it is legal. If you research there is much information about what masks are adequate to protect when dealing with viruses. When is the last time a government ordered you to do something and left out all specifications? Masks worn by doctors are disposed of regularly. Masks the way they are being applied are breeding ground for bacteria and I feel more dangerous to my health than the risk of the virus.

Author:	Express321 [ Fri Jul 31, 2020 2:10 am ]
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Rainman wrote: Please practice safe living. Wear a mask. We will get through this if we work together. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tnPkEyP_Tzg

Author:	Express321 [ Fri Jul 31, 2020 3:04 am ]
Post subject:	Re: coranavirus concern
Pops you have to wash your mask. That`s common sense and instructions are easy to find. The CDC and WHO position on masks was largely based on availability and preventing a run on the sort medical products professionals need. There hadn`t been any studies on homemade masks, but now there has been at least three. I just posted one. There`s an earlier one as well as one that just came out a few days ago. I`m about to go to bed, plus I`m tired of doing all the work when it comes to supporting my statements by providing actual evidence.... They should be easy enough to find in Google. Keep in mind it`s most common in science to learn more as more research is performed. That`s the nature of the business. As to quacks, well that`s precisely what they are, especially the strip mall preacher/doc with his alien DNA and whacky religious proclamations. These docs claimed there was a cure for Covid when there isn`t. They advised taking a drug that multiple studies has shown is ineffective when treating Covid while it carries cardiac risks. https://www.statnews.com/2020/06/05/hyd ... e-of-drug/ They discouraged wearing masks and social distancing when both have been demonstrated as effective. Read the articles I just posted and the related studies. Heck, just look at Western Europe and several Asian countries that have been on the ball with all this stuff and have the virus under control. They took the Nike cue, just did it and they have been rewarded. They have mask vending machines in Germany. In Singapore one can swipe their govt ID and get two masks out of a machine. As to censorship, well Twitter and Facebook are private platforms so the first amendment doesn`t apply. If someone comes in my living talking ridiculous horseshit about a very serious matter and won`t listen to reason, I`m going to ask them to leave. These quacks can still give speeches in front of the Lincoln Memorial if they get a permit, can start their own blog, plus the kooks at Breitbart will have them. Don`t worry though, plenty of Russian shills will take up the slack with spreading disinformation. I agree that people should investigate a wide range of news sources. Fox and Brietbart fans can begin to broaden their horizons by reading the articles I just posted which contain two peer reviewed studies, an interview with Bill Gates, and background info on the quacks so alluded to. I already answered about all the common and false arguments for equating Covid with the Flu, claims that numbers are getting faked, etc. in my earlier post to you from about a week ago. I`m not doing it all over again. Anyone interested should have no trouble looking it up. It`s a long post with a lot of source citations (links). Cheers

Author:	bulldog10 [ Fri Jul 31, 2020 7:27 am ]
Post subject:	Re: coranavirus concern
There have been some valid points. Everyone should be able to make up their own mind. Do all the background research you want; you will find the “gold standard” for medical research is the double blind placebo controlled randomized study. Neither the patient or doctor know if they are getting the drug or a sugar pill. It is random. It is unmasked at the end by a third party that is just counting the statistics. It is designed to keep bias out. EVERY double blind placebo controlled randomized study that has been done to test hydroxychloroquine in treatment of COVID-19 has shown no benefit. That is a fact you can verify. Everything else is just someone expressing an opinion not necessarily supported by scientific evidence. You can choose what to believe.

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Author:	Express321 [ Fri Jul 31, 2020 10:51 am ]
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Some good thoughts there Bulldog. Again everyone enjoy their weekend.

Author:	Rico1040 [ Fri Jul 31, 2020 12:12 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: coranavirus concern
The reports I am getting from my fellow brethren in CR is that they are in tica paradise ! With no competition from tourists, they are all enjoying unlimited top notch company at never imagined prices. They are exercising well, eating well and using this opportunity to conserve money and consolidate friendships. The local MPs are open and doing well with the locals. Government employees who are still receiving a steady paycheck , are still seeing their favoritas, and havent missed a bit . With less than 100 deaths out of 5,000,000 people, there is more concern about malaria, catching Zika, rising poverty levels,and the negative economic impact -especially affecting the lower 20% - of the intense government's reactions and obvious long term consequences of the insane suicidal decisions towards the country's economy. Unfortunately, international travel is still restricted, and many of us are stuck here in the states, surrounded by the american dream.. (let's pray we dont wake up ) . Wishing we were there. Many wonderful posts and different points of views have been presented here. Once we look through sensationalized headlines masquerading as news, life is simpler.

Author:	DManWalking [ Fri Jul 31, 2020 12:14 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: coranavirus concern
Express321 wrote: :lol: Pops you have to wash your mask. That`s common sense and instructions are easy to find. The CDC and WHO position on masks was largely based on availability and preventing a run on the sort medical products professionals need. There hadn`t been any studies on homemade masks, but now there has been at least three. I just posted one. There`s an earlier one as well as one that just came out a few days ago. I`m about to go to bed, plus I`m tired of doing all the work when it comes to supporting my statements by providing actual evidence.... They should be easy enough to find in Google. Keep in mind it`s most common in science to learn more as more research is performed. That`s the nature of the business. As to quacks, well that`s precisely what they are, especially the strip mall preacher/doc with his alien DNA and whacky religious proclamations. These docs claimed there was a cure for Covid when there isn`t. They advised taking a drug that multiple studies has shown is ineffective when treating Covid while it carries cardiac risks. https://www.statnews.com/2020/06/05/hyd ... e-of-drug/ More propaganda from the far left who ignores the actually science. They discouraged wearing masks and social distancing when both have been demonstrated as effective. Read the articles I just posted and the related studies. Heck, just look at Western Europe and several Asian countries that have been on the ball with all this stuff and have the virus under control. They took the Nike cue, just did it and they have been rewarded. They have mask vending machines in Germany. In Singapore one can swipe their govt ID and get two masks out of a machine. As to censorship, well Twitter and Facebook are private platforms so the first amendment doesn`t apply. If someone comes in my living talking ridiculous horseshit about a very serious matter and won`t listen to reason, I`m going to ask them to leave. These quacks can still give speeches in front of the Lincoln Memorial if they get a permit, can start their own blog, plus the kooks at Breitbart will have them. Don`t worry though, plenty of Russian shills will take up the slack with spreading disinformation. I agree that people should investigate a wide range of news sources. Fox and Brietbart fans can begin to broaden their horizons by reading the articles I just posted which contain two peer reviewed studies, an interview with Bill Gates, and background info on the quacks so alluded to. I already answered about all the common and false arguments for equating Covid with the Flu, claims that numbers are getting faked, etc. in my earlier post to you from about a week ago. I`m not doing it all over again. Anyone interested should have no trouble looking it up. It`s a long post with a lot of source citations (links). Cheers

Author:	Pops [ Fri Jul 31, 2020 12:32 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: coranavirus concern
Yes enjoy your weekend. I have to suffer being here surrounded by thousands of beautiful, desperate women. I only have one dick. The sacrifices I have to make for this brotherhood. There is no end in sight. I may Phuck myself to death if this keeps on until Gates can sell you a vaccine, Biden is President, Black lives don't matter anymore, the borders are open to anyone who wants to walk across, socialized medicine to rival the VA is initiated in the States, abortions are legal up and until the fetus is 3 years old if it is for the health of the mother, guns are outlawed completely and confiscated, the citizens of Chicago stop killing each other, all history books are burned and history is written to conform to the idea that we should be ashamed of America, all college loans are forgiven, social media giants, all news agencies, and news papers can censor whatever they choose and slant reporting anyway they wish with impunity, Christian religious services are declared illegal while it's okay to practice the Muslim faith. I can go on and on. What good does it do? Nobody really gives a shit. The government knows what is best for us and will take care of us. Problem is I still have two eyes. I believe what I see before I believe what someone tells me. If someone tells me they have a kayak that normally goes for $500 on sale for $59 like I read yesterday, I got to check this out. First thing I read upon googling the seller is multiple complaints about failure to deliver the product and big SCAM notifications abound. What if Google hid those reviews? Better yet, what if Google had people manufacture reviews praising the advertiser? What if the advertiser was paying Google for putting the add on the internet? See a conflict of interest? Censorship can be a dangerous thing. It is to the point that I am skeptical about all studies. I have seen some of the ones that said hydrocloroquine was useless. I looked closer and the way the medication was administered was completely different from the way the way the group of physicians that are being written off as quacks suggest. It matters little if you use a triple blind test if you are under absolutely different conditions. I stuck it up his ass after he died and he was still dead. One of the physicians was a nut, I agree. The others presented valid points but were all written off as useless. Seems funny that here in Costa Rica a drug that was widely prescribed for malaria. A disease that does exist here at times. Was completely taken off the market as soon as Donald Trump made the statement that it showed promise. Still the country announced for months that it was using this drug with success here. The deaths stayed very low. The CDC announced that a study had questioned the usefulness of the drug. Costa Rica discontinued. The study was then questioned as to who did it and what were the parameters of the study. A week later the CDC reversed it's position and Costa Rica announced that it was using the drug again with very good results. Who the Phuck am i suppose to believe? Fauci says the drug is of no use in treating covid a corona virus. He didn't say that when it was used to treat SARS, another corona virus. How many of you have a problem listening to a doctor say that covid is not a problem for Chldren? How many of you think that a doctor telling you that there has never been a confirmed case of a student passing the virus to a teacher is irrelevant? How man of you cannot believe that a labor union (teachers) would use this crisis to try to gain concessions? So if the union places demands on going back to work that include funding new programs and defunding the police you think that the safety of the teachers is what is stopping them from returning to work? Still I am stuck here in Paradise with more pusy than I can care for in a hundred years. Wish you guys could help me out. Life's a bitch at times. See you when they stop fueling hysteria in the states. Fueling it there gives them justifications to in-act restrictions here. Got to keep everyone safe. Making Costa Rica look too good can't be allowed. All of you in the states. may question what are they doing different than in the States. Be safe.

Author:	Flabuck [ Fri Jul 31, 2020 4:20 pm ]
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To fellow brother Express, I believe you missed the point I was trying to make If you think HCQ works you will be drawn an article like this https://www.newsweek.com/key-defeating- ... on-1519535 If you don't think HCQ works you will be drawn to artices like this https://www.newsweek.com/hydroxychloroq ... on-1521463 It's commonly called confirmation bias, same publication presenting differing views on an issue

Author:	Hank Daman [ Fri Jul 31, 2020 4:28 pm ]
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Pops wrote: How many of you have a problem listening to a doctor say that covid is not a problem for Ch*ldren? . Yes Pops. Read the doctors. Im sure Fox news, however, is much more trustworthy than Lancet. https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanc ... 40-6736(20)31094-1/fulltext?fbclid=IwAR2jcS4HamY1ybFSJoQnyqeB91MNHdTllxY_zez2-KtHcT9DOMYjuP2dFA4 https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101 ... 20088021v1 https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamane ... ct/2767979

Author:	Lennydo [ Fri Jul 31, 2020 4:59 pm ]
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LOL.... I prefer to get laid than just participating in this circle jerk perpetual mask debating. But, it looks like the "HOAX" is F&cking that up for me now. The best I can do now is to try to keep the hoax from killing me and just settle on more mask debating.

Author:	Rainman [ Fri Jul 31, 2020 5:59 pm ]
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I agree, kind of bored myself right now. I couldn't find anything about HCQ being used back on SARS in 2002-2003, some data may exist somewhere. But I did find this article on it. https://www.medicinenet.com/severe_acut ... rticle.htm I found this point rather interesting for those who don't want to read the whole article. "The SARS outbreak in 2002-2003 was controlled solely by using public-health measures, such as wearing surgical masks, washing hands well, and isolating infected patients."

Author:	Express321 [ Fri Jul 31, 2020 9:08 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: coranavirus concern
Hi guys meet Stella Emmanuel, the alien DNA, sex with demonic spirits in your sleep doctor that Trump is so impressed with. And damn, she confirms there is a "cure" for Covid. Watch the vid. And since any "opinion" is just as good as any other you guys should be good to go, right? Enjoy. https://fox5sandiego.com/news/coronavir ... h-spirits/

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Author:	snowmatt3 [ Fri Jul 31, 2020 10:21 pm ]
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HCQ was thought to be a cure for SARS years ago. It wasn't. I will admit that whoever is making this stuff has a great marketing team.