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PostPosted: Tue Sep 19, 2006 1:51 am 
Hi

I was wondering if someone on this board could tell me the history of the Blue Marlin bar and how it changed from a regular bar into a mongering paradise.

From my understanding it originally began as a fisherman's watering hole and somehow evolved into this huge mongering locale.

Can someone provide some kind of timeline and period where it changed from a regular bar into a place to meet working girls? What year did it change and why?

When did the place really take off as a place to meet working girls?

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 19, 2006 9:17 pm 
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Okay, the little I know is that back in the day, like 1987, when I first went to San Jose, the Blue Marlin was a sleepy little bar hotel & what action to be had was in the Key Largo. Back in the day when it was really unusual to even hear English spoken. Supposedly 3 Gringos saw the action the KL was getting, which has admittedly ebbed and flowed and they bought the hotel for a song. But I am sure there is more accurate information out there. :wink:


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 20, 2006 7:03 am 
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In the mid 80's John E. bought the rights for the Key Largo. A broken down bar at the time. He has remolded and took out much of the surrounding competiton. Made parking lots. He bought the Del Rey also worn out. Remolded sort of . His partner Greg over saw the remolding. Slowly the local hookers statrted going to the Blue Marlin bar. Found it friendly and started the trend. About 1995 or so It began to become what it is now. More women from other counties statred to invade the area but thats another story. Also they bought the competition across the street the Monkey bar some say to keep all the business. Its as you know one stop shop. Hotel, bar, hookes, food and casino . Not to mention travel agency and the like. John is a smart and intelligent investor and God bless hm.. The Barmaids are the best paid/tipped in the whole area some makeing 3K /month. The hookers on the other hand make huge amounts.


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 20, 2006 12:05 pm 
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In the mid 80's John E. bought the rights for the Key Largo. A broken down bar at the time. He has remolded and took out much of the surrounding competiton. Made parking lots.


Think your time line machine went out of calibration. Happy Days, New York Bar, Bella Donna (all now parking lots) were alive and well into the late 90's.

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Damn how I miss Happy Days and the Park Hotel. It makes me weep.


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 20, 2006 7:36 pm 
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I said he bought the Key Largo in the 80's.. I know it was later when he kncked dowwn Happy Days and others. I guess I needed to be more detailed. Sorry for the confusion


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 20, 2006 7:37 pm 
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YO Romulus:

If you did a little search you might find some of my writings on this subject. Blue Marlin, Key Largo and Presidente to name a few.

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 22, 2006 4:58 am 
Yes I found another thread thanks to another user who had the same questions and I learned that pretty much the area already had working girls spread out throughout the gulch area and when the Del Rey opened they all went there instead.

So basically the girls all concentrate now in that one hotel and Key Largo whereas before they were spread out in different bars (although before the Del Rey was a hotel, all the action was at Key Largo from what I understand).

Then the word got out about that place (both for men in the US and other countries and also for girls all over central america) and it became this huge meeting location. Imagine what it will be like in 10 more years!

I was in CR in 1998 for the first time and some taxi drivers kept talking about Key Largo and when I went inside (around 2:00 am) it was totally dead.

I heard someone at the key largo was shot in 2000 or 2001 which is why it was shut down and remodeled. Is that true? A few taxi drivers told me about that incident.


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 22, 2006 10:37 pm 
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Romulus:

It is late and I have nothing to do. So I'll give you my version of the history of the Blue Marlain. In May 1997 I made my first trip to San Jose. I had reservations at the hotel Del Rey. I chose that hotel because of its proximity to Key Largo. It was a late-night arrival and the taxi driver made a point out driving by the main entrance of Key Largo to point it out to me. The Key Largo was the main thing going everything else survived on the overflow from their. The next big thing was happy days. Its location was the current location of an outline or a roof next to hotel morazan. About 1/10 this size of Key Largo and home to the homely and those who do not feel challenged by their weight.

The Blue Marlin existed as a much smaller version of itself. It consisted only of the table area and one of the horseshoes that make up the bar to day. The old restaurant called the city cafe in those days, the lobby of the hotel and the casino occupied the rest of the ground floor. There was no large group of girls moving from area to area. What few girls they were were confined to the blue Marlin itself. The number never exceeded a dozen or so. Most of the time they were required to remain seated and not allowed to walk around. The impression I got was that for the most part they were overflow from Key Largo. The blue Marlin and Key Largo had no affiliation at that time.

We complain about conditions on the streets at night outside the hotel Del Rey. In 1997 and 1998 it was literally a block party. Street people and girls were everywhere. These were people you did not want to be doing business with . The quality that we've grown used to and the variety was not there. Remember were talking about my opinion. By late 1998 my primary source of entertainment was the escort services. At some point in late 1998 Key Largo's fame became its worst enemy. News teams with cameras began showing up. You could imagine the effect this had on business when you stepped out of the front door with your new love at your side to find a camera and reporter waiting for you.

Well this had the predictable effect on the Key Largo it became the last place anyone wanted to be seen. The enterprising young man at the hotel Del Rey were able to see a business opportunity and began their expansion of the Blue Marlin operation. It has grown from a small corner of the hotel Del Rey's mainfloor to the dominating feature and primary reason for the building being there. The best way to eliminate competition is to buy them out. So went the old Key Largo, happy days and the old New York. There was once a steakhouse bar across the street from the blue Marlin now it is the monkey bar bought out by the owners of the hotel Del Rey.

As always my opinion.

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The next big thing was happy days. Its location was the current location of an outline or a roof next to hotel morazan. About 1/10 this size of Key Largo and home to the homely and those who do not feel challenged by their weight.


While I understand Lee made reference a couple of times that his views were opinion I have to respectfully disagree with his description of Happy Days.

Happy Days while perhaps not as big as KL was hardly only a 10th of the size. It consisted of 3 separate bars. A very small one closest to KL, a medium size one closest to the Morazan and a larger one, used mainly on Friday & Saturday night, behind the other two.

The girls were hardly fat and overweight and in fact many of them worked Happy Days and then went to KL when it started to fill up after 9:00 PM.

I think most of the veterans of San Jose in the early and middle 90's would be unanimous in their desire to have Happy Days reincarnated today.

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Lee,

Interesting to see your take which is very close to mine. I agree with you about the talent overall in Key Largo, Happy Days & Nashville south. So many of mainly all Ticas at that time that I thought were UGLY or ones I would never go with. I always found some gems here & there though. Seems like there are far more younger Latinas that are good for the last 5 years or so :P .

I would go to strip clubs & some discos years ago & did ok with this. The ones I found in strip clubs I would arrange meeting out side the club since I was cheep & would not pay what it took to take them out of the club.

I like the dress now compared to years back since they show more of the stomach & there are less hidden surprises. What I saw that seemed to kill Key Largo was it changed ownership & they tried to rip you off more & put more control on the Ticas that worked there. HDR let the Ticas operate in an independent way which is what they liked & soon HDR grew becoming the dominant player.

The setting was better to me & made it seem like a more normal pickup bar which helped all I believe. I think the larger crowd has brought more players out plus the money is better now for the Latinas so it has just become better all the way around. We know some of the same Ticas & I very rarely found Ticas like Kimberly in Key Largo. Now I find many like her. :wink: Over time as it all grows & the money flows I see it getting nothing but better from a selection stand point.

Funny how it works as many of the new guys think all the chicas are good but the new has worn off long ago for me. I am far more selective now. It is easy to see the good providers & decent ones from the hard core trouble that runs around. Just my opinion & I could always be wrong.

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 23, 2006 12:20 am 
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Irish Drifter:

Obviously you have fond memories of a place I spent very little time in and will be happy to defer to your opinion. I like to referred to things in that time frame as my opinion. That is because most experiences while on vacation were seen through an alcoholic haze.

Romulus:

Having just seen your last post will make one more comment. Were as the news media killed Key Largo it did draw attention to a developing industry in San Jose. That attention increased the supply of girls and the variety of girls. The owners of the Del ray did the best job of taking advantage of that new supply. They do an excellent job of presenting themselves as a respectable hotel that just happens to have Central America's largest cathouse on the main floor .

One other event that had an effect on the supply and quality of girls was a major crackdown about 2000 on escort agencies and groups of girls run by individuals. A large group of young attractive girls that had been under someone's control was suddenly out on the street. They gravitated toward the Blue Marlin.

Yes still my opinion.

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1) What was good about Happy Days and where was it located?

2) I thought the Park Hotel was just a hotel that happened to have a lesbian show one night a week. Was there more to it and where was it located?

3) Is the New York Bar of today different than the one of the 90s?


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The fame of HDR has spread & become a beacon of sorts for Latinas from other countries that have worse economic conditions than Costa Rica. Some Latinas from Colombia, Panama & even Aruba have told me they would never openly solicit in their countries because of family. Many may go to CR in hopes of regular type work & drift into prostitution simply because it pays so much better & they feel no one will ever know.

One night I found what I consider to be a real beauty from Colombia. I made the deal with her but we could not leave HDR when I wanted because there were news media & cameras with bright lights taping people going in & out of HDR. She would not even leave on her own to meet me at my Hotel since she was afraid her mother might see her on the news in Colombia. After an hour or so passed the coast was clear & we left. One just never knows :? ?

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I'm with Zippy and Lee on this one........

The only thing I can say is that I'm glad I was able to visit the KL hay days I remember you didn't even have to enter the place there was enough chickies at the morazan park just hanging out it was like a freakin drive thru. Cars just drove up and loaded up. It seemed that it was quantity and now we're blessed with quality, I remember $40 was normal going rate much like cien today.

I also was able to the old NY Bar, it was great little bar, as close as you can get to a US style bar IMO.

To stay on topic I will say the BM was obviously not what it is today, but thanks to a couple of guys.................well, you know the rest.


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